History of the Reptilians

I'll begin the History of the Reptilians with Zulu Shaman and Edler Credo Mutwa.



Credo Mutwa was interviewed by Rick Martin, and also by author David Icke. In both interviews the story which Mutwa tells, both of ancient African/world history, and of his own bizarre experiences, are nearly identical. Here I will summarize this story for you, and below I’ll post the links if anyone should like to read the whole interview by Martin or watch the two-part video interview by Icke.

Mutwa talks about the dying of Africa, about how the Human-engineered (bio-warfare) disease known as AIDS is helping to destroy the people of Africa, as well as the wars between different peoples in the continent. He speaks of his sorrow in knowing that none of this had to be, that it is all in the design of outside forces. He points out that Africans, especially his own Zulu people, have wrongly been taken as war-loving by Western world people. They literally called war evil; that was one of their words for it. And before a Zulu warrior would go into battle, he would undergo a ritual to transform him for the conflict. Then after returning, he underwent a “very painful” seven-day process of purification before he could even touch his wife. Mutwa believes strongly that the wars of Africa, like all the wars of the world, are manipulated into being by unseen evil forces (the Reptilians, and the Illuminati under them.) He explains also that the deserts of the world were made by Human beings, and that they were once jungles. We are destroying our own planet, and thus ourselves. It’s all madness, and makes no sense that we would wish to do this. He goes on to say:

Long ago, Humans were both/neither male or female. We did not speak nor did we know language; we communicated telepathically with symbolism. We were peaceful, and could do godly things. We could Astral Travel, to speak with aliens far away or with beings of other dimensions. We lived as an enlightened race of gods. We could not see the sky or stars; as there was a thick dark mist of some kind blocking it. Even the sun appeared as a vague beam of light. The world was covered in rich jungles/rain forests. Then one day there came giant golden globes from the sky, with a loud roaring fire behind them. And then from this ship came a deadly, super manipulative Reptilian race. They promised to make us into gods and extend Human life, in return for us excepting them as our gods and creators. They taught us how to speak, and the great tragedy in this is that we lost our telepathic/Astral powers. They made us mine deep into the Earth for gold and other metals which were precious to the Reptilians, and thus we became workers. In short, it was a raw deal.

There are several races of Reptilians. The more powerful types have larger/longer horns (the horns are a sort of antenna; for generating psychic energy.) They tend to have white skin, although the warrior Reptilians are identical to the creature Darth Maul in “Star Wars, Episode One: The Phantom Menace.” They have godly powers of manipulation through their eyes, and the higher ones have a third eye – which is blood red and can, it is said, kill a man by looking. And if two of them fight, they fight through their third eyes. Some can shape shift. They regard women as inferior (unlike African people, as Mutwa points out.) The only thing that can kill them is a spear/pike made of Rhodesian teak wood, one way that can protect one from them is to don a mask of that wood, and also they are easily blinded by bright lights. They live off Human energy; they are like psychic vampires who feed off our emotions and even our metaphysical material. And Mutwa suggests that the reason for the Greys abducting people may be solely to collect nutrients/energy from the bodies of their victims (the Greys are an offshoot of the Reptilians, and serve them as mindless scientists/abductors of Humans.)



When Mutwa was young he had a strange experience. He was walking, and then found himself lying upon a metal platform. There were Greys around him. They performed numerous painful acts upon him before he was led away, passing by areas where numerous others were suffering from the same procedure. He saw one man close-up, a blonde Caucasian with facial hair. From there he was laid down and a short alien female with unblinking eyes, breasts too high and hard, ears pointed, and without apparent emotion, made love to him. After that he found himself where he had been, but only with his shirt – which he tied around himself like a loincloth. He walked until he came to a group of boys who kept a distance – due to his horrible stench – who pointed him in the direction of a temple. A woman friend of his there advised him to accept his experience, as he was only one of hundreds she had known of who had suffered it, and to not question the gods. Mutwa however had many questions, and still has.

In a second strange experience, he met up with a couple who led him on a spiritual adventure, which saw to the eating of a Grey’s flesh – which had a strong copper-like flavour. The Greys wear body-tight uniform under their clothing, with large black lenses (which look like insect eyes.) But their eyes are actually round, their skin pinkish and tender. But to get to the real flesh, it takes a large razor-sharp and strong-armed man to break into the shell/costume. Once broken, it can easily be peeled back to reveal the pink-skinned body underneath (which can be eaten.) While eaten, the effects are like consuming hashish or a similar drug, only that it awakens powerful inner gifts. Mutwa’s prophetic powers were enhanced, and he could hear a higher voice speaking to him. These effects slowly died off over several weeks. But after these two experiences, Mutwa was surprised to see that he could make sculptures, build guns and other mechanical objects which he admits he should not know how to do. He has also become bisexual. And thus he believes that by consuming the Grey’s flesh he had taken back some of his hidden personal truth (back from a time when we were all psychic and ... technically bisexual.)



Mutwa believes that the Reptilians are using us to destroy most of our own race so that there will be fewer of us and we’ll be easier to control, because – for whatever reason – they are planning on returning to the surface. He believes they are coming because their image is appearing more often, and more accurately, throughout the world of late. Currently they live in underground tunnels lit by fire (we subconsciously perceive this as Hell.) We are naturally afraid of them, as they are alien, evil, and so powerfully manipulative; we can feel their superior mind power. That is why long ago they created kings as the go-between, and long from then, still, the Illuminated Ones. They plan to come to the surface and claim the world for their own. We will, in theory, bow down as we did before. If we all knew this story and understood, how could we? But what if we don’t? It could all happen over again...

Interview by Rick Martin:

http://www.sabon.org/credo/index2.html

Video Interview by David Icke, Part One:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6596739037703227608&q=Zulu+Shaman&total=39&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Part Two:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6829943309915048917&q=shaman+zulu&total=39&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

You might wanna take a look at this...it left a sick feeling in my stomach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgZPryMAsLE


Added: August 16, 2007
A paranormal video about demon possession or Icke style reptilian shape-shifters, by Archangel Systems.

When we did our analysis of the reptile woman video, we were challenged by many people with various accusations ranging from bad video to outright fakery. We were also praised for being the first to provide video proof of the morphing phenomena. Our response was to begin a search (which is still ongoing) for other similar videos.

We began looking at films of large crowds, etc., hoping to find people that were morphing when examined frame-by-frame. (these morphs generally cannot be seen otherwise)

This video is the first fruit of our labors. The person in this video has been filmed EXTENSIVELY...and as far as we can tell, there is morphing in all of her videos. She even claimed at one point to have been demon posessed. Could she have been telling the truth as she understood it?

She also contended to the very end that the government was involved with, and was fully aware, of her killings.

And this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwJSelxDkqY

Aileen Wuornos :Confirmed Reptilian
Reptilian humanoid
She was possessed by 15 different demons that were prostitutes taking "revenge".

I've got (as usual) too much of a hangover to check this out right now, but I'll dig into it later today. For now, my thoughts on reptilians. And I am incredibly interested in this one theory.

First of all, reptilian aliens that live inside Earth. We know it sounds crazy. But if (and I must say I haven't checked the sources myself) David Icke is right in that the Native American and African shamans like for example Credo Mutwa say that reptilians exist, well, seriously? That's enough for me, because I'm a believer in shamanism. They're much more IQed up in the highball than I am, so... *Shrug*

Of course, other people are harder to persuade than I am, not because we're easily fooled or they are unable to "see the truth", but because they look at Earth in a different way than we do. Nothing wrong with being skeptic, either.

The thing is, we can see reptilian thingies mentioned all over history, and even in the bible - as dragons, the snake of Eden, and so on - maybe even as the "demons" of the past. Now...take the "dragons" that has been mentioned in knight sagas during the entire dark ages... We didn't live back then, so we don't know how things looked there. For all we know, these "dragons" might have been reptilians walking around in the open, socializing with kings, knights and peasants... On the other hand, we've all heard about knights that have slain a great dragon... So, what does that mean? Your guess is as good as mine.

Still, that's just thoughts, and there's no real proof. But it certainly would be cool if it's true. And also horrible, if some theories are true, Dulce comes to mind... And one has to remember one thing when idea spawning around alien races like the greys and anunnaki. No race, NO race, is inheritly evil. There will be evil greys and evil reptilians, and there will be good ones of both races as well. Just as with humanity.

Meh... Just my 2 öre for now.

You party too much...
Maybe...but I'm still prettier than you.

Two thoughts for now have arised when I read your entire post after some well-needed sleep. First of all, the whole "eating a grey" thingie...

I used to joke about this, back in my days believing all greys were evil. I used to say something in the fashion of, "hm, barbecue at my place tonight, boys. You bring the beer, I'll bring the roasted grey". To me it was a joke. Now that I read this, I can't help it but my thoughts wander to the word "cannibalism", even though we are not greys (so technically, it's not cannibalism, though it's a pretty moot point). And to spin further on that, the thought of cannibalism brings me to the whole "Wendigo" story, which I'm sure you all have heard of, and if not, here's the link.
In short; A man eats another man's flesh, and becomes kind'a mighty. See the likeness here?

"A man eats the flesh of a grey and becomes kind'a mighty..."

Second, and now, I'm on thin ice, but when these reptilians promised us godhood... My question is simple; why? Why would we want that, if we were as illuminated as Credo Mutwa thinks we were? Why? We must have known even back then that power is corruptive, and that corruption leads to destruction. And Godhood is power...

And last, a thought just popping up in my head. If we could communicate with other alien races before the reptilians arrived, I wonder if we told them about the reptilians, and what they had to say in that case... Still, I stand by my claim. I refuse to believe that any race is inheritly evil, including Greys, reptilians, and (incidentally) humans.

Ah, well. Just another 2 öre from my side.

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You might wanna take a look at this...it left a sick feeling in my stomach.

Yuck, mine too. I had to look away a lot. I see a lot of videos like this, especially of leading politicians such as George Bush. I have ignored them, figuring that some were making something out of nothing and that other footage had been tampered with. But then, many people have witnessed these transformations in person. I had a similar experience. While in the city of Toronto I had encountered a young girl one night, pacing back and forth in a dark flimsy state. I wasn’t sure she was prostituting herself or not. Guessing, she was maybe 14. I did not see any physical shape shifting, but what I will never forget were those eyes. They were like glazing evil ecstasy. They were frightening, and I couldn’t look at them, only glance. My fearful reaction surprised me. Hard to explain, but it was what was unseen that bothered me deeply. I continued to my friend’s house and explained that I had see a 14 year old girl prostituting herself by the grocery store and she called the police for me. She could clearly see that I was traumatised by the event. I wasn’t even sure if that was what she was doing. It was the darkness in her, in those eyes...

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And this...

Reminds me of a previous land lord, and a previous co-worker. Seriously, very similar. Although I admit, this is especially ... supernatural. I believe she is a Reptilian and she has indeed warned us. This may prove to be a very important video, Goth!


Good questions there, Loxley. I agree that some of his claims of ancient history seem ... questionable. I believe he is being honest, but I also believe he may also be confusing myth as fact to a certain extent. And ah ... you won't catch me eating anything humanoid!

Now, this is a central theory of a secret power within. I can't state all of this as fact, only that there are many facts and much evidence to support this stuff. Here is the theory:

In various cultures around the world there is talk of a race of gods who flew here from the clouds. They came in massive space ships, and used 'flying saucers' to explore the world with. There were a group of human-like aliens -- humanoids -- who called themselves the Sons of the Serpent. This stuff is recorded in the runes and symbols of ancients, and by the ancient knowledge of the shamans. The evidence is all around, and anyone curious enough can explore it. Thing is, although all the evidence shows that the majority of alien races are peaceful, the evidence shows that the ones that came here, about 40 thousand years ago I believe, are not. They became the masters of the world, and given their godly technology, magical abilities and great wisdom, the human race was greatly inspired by them. Although, women were more inspired and showed more understanding than men, and thus were imitated as the leaders of humankind, as partly the aliens believed women were superior (the exact event which created sexism, and men have never forgiven women for their 'betrayal' long ago.)



Some women became lovers of these alien overlords, and these especially became queen-like figures. They were called Virgins, as they did not mate with human males, and if they gave birth this was called a Virgin Birth (sound familiar?) Many of the earlier results of alien-human relations proved disastrous; there was something in the meeting of the DNA which would not hold together. However, in some cases it proved highly successful. The aliens, call them the Reptilians if you like -- although some researchers believe that the Reptilians were created later by the aliens as a warrior race to combat the humans for control -- became unsettled as men began rebelling against them and their appointed female leaders. So, the aliens tampered with human DNA to change the genetic makeup of some humans, and turned them into a super race -- a race which was partially human, partially alien. These were the first kings, and their rules would be succeeded by bloodline, as they were encouraged to breed only within their circles; to maintain their super human genetics.

Only, these super humans defied their masters and left. The alien overlords were obsessive over gold, and using humanity as a race of miners and builders ... and there are many theories for why gold was so important to them, but gold has ever since remained of material interest to humans. The aliens tampered with the DNA of humans, and especially in the genetic makeup of the males, to make them more mindless and obedient. But the advanced leaders swept over the masses with wisdom and encouragement, and inspired a major revolution which caused the alien overlords to lose power. Outraged, the alien overlords used their advanced technology to take control by force. The advanced ones led humanity to rebel. This was known as the War of the Gods, and appears in many ancient writings. There are descriptions of whole armies of sword and bow wielding warriors being destroyed by a single energy blast of the enemy. But the advanced ones stole alien technology and fought back. This caused so much radiation that there was much deformity, and some people grew third eyes or extra limbs, or were born very small or very large, according to the ancient texts (the ‘giants’, and so forth.)

A major catastrophe disrupted this war when it was at its height -- and event some believe was an alien world coming very close to ours, and the very same one which is hidden from the public although astrologers can prove it exists due to its gravitational influence on the other planets of our solar system. Others believe it was another celestial body passing through. But it caused much water to come down from above, and the waters of the world multiplied. This was the Great Flood, recorded throughout the ancient world. The War of the Gods never ended. If the aliens had won, all we'd have in the world today is evil and control. If the good had one, we'd have peace and enlightenment. So, the struggle goes on...



The children of the alien-human relationships, as well as some branches of the advanced ones, continued their leadership and struggle for world dominance under the secret direction of the aliens. The Illuminati is the aliens' following, their children and the advanced ones who follow them, through bloodline connection to this day. They are centred in England, in London specifically. The British Empire was their empire (it was modeled by them and was under their secret control.) But its attempts to conquer the world, through war and through culture, failed. Yet again, human spirit bested the superior genius of the alien cult. But they would not stop for anything, and so went back to the old drawing board, yet again, to orchestrate a more manipulative plan, one which took the spirit and awareness of humanity to heart.

They concluded that the people will always rebel in the end, so the way to conquer was by doing it secretly. How does one escape a cell he does not know he is in? They created the Political System. This gave the people the illusion of say and influence, of power, without them really having it ... in theory. The people would believe in their influence, and would be coaxed into loving their Political Systems through their national achievements, religions and beliefs, and cultural strengths. They would be put into conflict with each other, to make them insecure about each other, and thus patriotic; believing in the Political System. Their minds would be assimilated, through the media, which would tell them how to think, and coax them into it with entertainment. Belief was vital to this, and so religion would play a vital role -- including Hinduism, but the Vatican is a central organization working for the alien overlords (the US government still pays rent to the Vatican, and its secret services and NASA's findings still have to pass approval of the Vatican's secret service. It remains the most official central power in the world.)

Even a few hundred years ago, the average person knew about aliens and UFOs extending back to the ancient times. Today, they don't. Even a few hundred years ago the average person knew about magic as a real power. Today, they don't. Even a few hundred years ago the average person knew the Roman Catholic Church was working hard to cover up much of the ancient knowledge, and taking over spiritually charged sites and claiming their happenings as Christian happenings. Today, they don't. In the time of the 'info super highway', the people are quite ignorant of many things. The Internet can help, but ultimately people keep to their enforced views, interested in observing the 'paranormal', but rarely interested in pealing back the layers to find the answers. People are comfortable with a sensation of deeper meaning, without finding it. Our world has become disgustingly sensationalistic ... living on the surface, afraid to look deeper, stuck up and blinded in common perspective which have been manufactured for them. School, religion and the media are the three major tools which the Illuminati use to suppress you. If you continue to buy into them, they will win.

The Illuminati love symbols. The Serpent, of course, which represents their proud alien bloodline, is their favourite. The letter ‘G’ represents a serpent, as in the lower case -- g -- it appears as a snake. Their soldiers all wear the same symbols, whether they're Nazis or British soldiers, or American or Canadian ones. People die on both sides of orchestrated wars for their patriotism, not knowing it was all designed. The Sons of the Serpent admire the sun, which is represented by the lion. They see the sun as the ruling power of existence, in mythical terms. Thusly, you find the symbols of the dragon and the lion in many places, of governments and banks. Dragons = flying serpents. Gargoyles = guarding serpents. The letter S also represents the snake, and is to be found in many places. Such as the dollar sign: $. Why do royals walk the red carpet? It represents the bloodline. Why do political leaders walk it? For the same reason. 32 American presidents had very close blood relation to Charlemagne, for example. All presidents had closer royal blood connection than their opponents. A democracy?



The ancient Illuminati still rule. England still leads the world, not America. America is being used as the means to an end. It has been built up as the new enemy of the world, to create mayhem and destruction, as a way of taking people's eyes off England (now, I love England, and don't mean anything against the British. Just saying the Illuminati are cantered there.) The War on Terrorism has been orchestrated (study the evidence on how the World Trade Center was really collapsed if you don't believe me.) The same symbols of the Illuminati are found everywhere, if you can take the time to look. Your presidents and prime ministers and religious figures still walk the red carpet, your soldiers still don the same symbols, like your government buildings. The people are not interested in symbolism, but the Illuminati are obsessed with it. If you look for yourself, you will see it. And maybe you will begin to question things, to stand back and attempt to peal back the layers of deception, to see how we've been used. Like sheep, sheep dogs have been created to scare us, and leaders have been set up to lead us.

So...

To be perfectly honest, I do not know if these 'alien overlords' exist or not. There is a lot of evidence to show that they do, in whatever shape or form. What is clear, however, is that the Illuminati are an ancient group, represented everywhere by the symbol of the Serpent, and are the true but unseen rulers of the world. According to one woman's testimony, the War on Terrorism was in the planning decades ago. A War on Asteroids was to follow, and finally a War on UFOs, after which, in theory, the Illuminati would have taken power through their long planned New World Order, and will be in total and ever-lasting control. By the way, further DNA manipulation is planned, to make us even more mindless and obedient. The human race is to be further enslaved, body, mind, and soul. Unless they are stopped. And as long as their plans are unseen, how can they be? The people must take interest in looking for the truth. I believe that recent best selling novels like “the Da Vinci Code” and “the Templar Legacy” reflect a growing interest in the truth, sparked by those who have tried to peal back the layers.

Some video sources of evidence:

The NWO Reptilian Truth (my cheeky intro):
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=379...h&plindex=3

The Origins of Evil on the Earth:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=911...h&plindex=2

Reptilian Planet X History

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=572...h&plindex=3

David Gergen - Alex Jones

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-23...h&plindex=6

Allagash Abductions, Part 2 (the hypnotist in this case was a friend of my girlfriend’s):

http://www.livevideo.com/video/ALIENDISCLO...ons-part-2.aspx

Peggy Kane Interview Part One:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=692...h&plindex=0

Peggy Kane Interview Part Two:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2280703618056368717

This is the Sound of Revolution:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=312...h&plindex=2

The Reptilian Infiltration:

http://www.alienseekernews.com/writers/rea...filtration.html
(ASN is actually a fantastic website for alien/UFO subjects. I suggest viewing their video library.)

Scientists find Extraterrestrial genes in Human DNA:

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Fron...1/08/01288.html

Astral Dreamscape Manipulation (this is true at least some extent):

http://www.reptilianagenda.com/exp/e090800a.shtml

Alien Artefacts:

http://www.ufocasebook.com/alienartifacts.html
(This page lists just several of the many artefacts revealing that aliens and UFOs have interfered in our world throughout history. Sadly this page does not give more information in these images. I used to have at least a few that did. The depiction to the bottom right is clearly that of a Reptilian.)

(Evidence of) Ancient Egyptian Flight Technology:

http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html

More evidence:

1. Frantic Radio Show Caller: http://www.alienseekernews.com/videos/area...nticcaller.html
2. Astral Sex. For this I won’t bother to list a link, there are tons. Just Google “astral sex” and you’ll see what I mean. If you’ve been viewing my evidence from the start you’ll know how this relates (hint, Peggy Kane.)
3. hypnotic regressions with abductees: http://www.karlaturner.org/articles/relate...matoo_2007.html
4. The fact that the Pyramid has always been the Illuminati symbol, and the first pyramid – the Great Pyramid – was built tens of thousands of years ago and we still can’t fathom how it could possibly been man-made.
5. Little Reptilian: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/11/09.html
6. Different takes on Reptilians: http://www.seancasteel.com/TheReptilianAliens.htm
7. Arizona Reptilians: http://www.burlingtonnews.net/superstitionabductions.html
8. Murder Trial, Reptilians Involved: http://archives.cnn.com/2002/LAW/09/26/ctv...rial/index.html
9. Ancient Knowledge and Technology P1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncgxcTa0eSQ
10. Underground Reptilian: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-63...h&plindex=1

Reptoid Video Series (First half has noisy background)
Parts:

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96beoSorFSw
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQF8i959Ybg
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leyxeCtHsAQ
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KimX61m6Ud4
5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxrMAzjSBzY
6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgKXoiJVrDI
7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDQTJos7zt0
8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGnLLyEq0SY (mentions inter-dimensional Reptoids)
9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNiM9Vp3d_0 (underground tunnels)
10. http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=386...h&plindex=0

The above I had posted on Unexplained Mysteries, to which I had been told I had presented no evidence.

One man's evidence is another man's propaganda in our line of business. That's the reality of the whole believer/skeptic relationship, and we'll just have to make do with that, because it's not going to change. Though for what it's worth, I think all of this counts as evidence. In fact, I think a single person's testimony that reptilians exist, is enough as evidence, until he or she proves themselves to be liars, or otherwise not trustworthy.

Thanks Loxley, I agree. I always like listening to all sides and considering every person's thoughts or supposed experiences. Guess that's what gets folks like us into the paranormal conspiracies.

That looks incredibly similar to Charmed's Belthazor:

That video gave me a blistering headache. You should have a weapons license to post it.

'Sides, Icke seems like an impressive man in my eyes. George W. Bush for example (among all the alleged reptilians in the US gov')...does not. And it's not a man's race, reptilian or human, that is important, it's his actions. See the difference?
Icke - Bush.

Icke -> Revealing his truth about the world we live in, as well as preaching for love.
Bush -> Going to war, sacrificing three thousand American soldiers in Iraq just for the sake of oil and power... (and that's just the tip of the iceberg, don't even get me started on this a...hrm, this guy...)



With risk of repeating myself, but...see the difference?

Cool video but I agree with Loxley. I see nothing evil or Reptilian in Icke. He just looks intelligent and deep.

Cool Warrior Reptilian images! They do have a demonic power about them; the symbolism.

I would urge anyone investigating this stuff to be very careful and step back from it frequently. The Reptilians are highly telepathic. Like Santa, they know what you are doing and unlike us, they aren't naughty or nice, they are just naughty.

Yes that's my feeling as well Goth.

By the way, a fellow on another site claims that the Reptilians had been secretly removed from our planet in 1998. But even if that were true, they're still here in some shape or form.

Consciousness cannot be contained - it is free to travel wherever it desires. Just because you cannot physically see something, do not assume it is not present in some shape or form, or is not aware of you.

I am not trying to scare anybody, but I think it is wise to side with caution when dealing with something that obviously has powers beyond our comprehension.

I'm certain they have powers, these reptilians. But again, I wish to say that I don't think *all* reptilians are evil. I believe they, like us, have good people, and bad ones. That they have good leaders, and bad leaders. Of course, I haven't been to their dimension, so I don't know, but I find it *very* hard to believe there exists a race who's only purpose of existence is to do evil.

Just my 2 öre.

I don't think we can classify them by evil or good because they are human terms based on our emotional appraisal of behaviours.

I guess we might see them as evil because they have caused our species so much pain and fear. But a leech sucks blood to survive and we don't label them evil - they are just doing what comes naturally to them to survive. Perhaps the same can be applied to the reptilians?

And a thought on their enslavement of less evolved races to do their bidding...do we not train horses and ride them in the same way a reptilian might train a grey to do it's bidding? We cause pain to get results from the horse (whipping in races, etc). The reptilians might do similar to enforce their will on the greys (maybe not whipping but....you know, some other cause of pain..).

If we remove our emotions, there is a whole lot more information available and a very different perspective that we can observe from...